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« Thread started on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:21pm »

I am a Christian myself (Not exactly in the religious sense), but I believe in Christ. And am a follower of Christ. So therefore, it's going to be pritty hard for me not to mix some of my own beliefs in with my work.

However, I will do my best not to cram it down anyones throat as I post it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Thats for sure.

I believe in God and God's word. I also believe that Christ is God's word. And so I believe in Him too.

Please don't get my beliefs in Jesus (God's Son as He was in the form of flesh and blood) and Christ (God's Son in Spirit form) confused however. I believe that Christ is the Spirit that was infused into Jesus's body, and that Jesus was the flesh (the body) that the Christ (The Master) entered into.

Please also remember that WE too, are God's children, both in Spirit form and in Flesh form.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:21pm »

I believe that God has only one Law. And that Jesus has only one Gospel. And that both of them are the same. And that neither of them can be found in a religious book, but must instead be discovered through Yourself. Myself. Ourselves.

I believe that we can all receive direction through some things in the material World including through such things as portions of the Bible. But, I also believe that there is absolutely no reason for 100% dependence on religion or religious books. They will all give you what you could have already found if only you had looked inside Yourself the entire time.

I believe that God's Complete Law for us is:

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy mind, all thy heart and thy body; and thy Neighbor as Thyself. Do this and thou shalt have Eternal Life"

That law came straight from Jesus's mouth.

I believe that when Jesus said "Thy Neighbor", that He used that as a symbol for representing all of Humanity. And that to enter back into Eternal Life means that we have obeyed this very Law to the best of our ability relating to our Wills. Portions of the Bible and other religious books like some of the Hindu scriptures and the Koran are really just trying to describe that Law. But they are not the Law. They are interpretations of that Law. And many of the people who have learned from sources like that have been way off as far as how they have gone about trying to Live it. It is the same in any language or culture, or in any version of spiritual or religious texts.

All people should know that within our own Selves are immutable Laws that we can never escape from. Therefore, so as we condemn others, we will be condemned. As we do unto our Brothers and Sisters, so it will be the same as doing it to God!

These are laws that exist within every single one of us. They are truths, they are unfailing. And just because at times it might seem as if the result of a horrible act has gone unpunished for way too long, and that it might appear that God is slow in meting our results for a Person's actions, It still stands that nothing a person can do will alter or change those Laws. An error, a fault, a failure, must be met. And as we have heard before, though the Heavens and the Earth shall pass away, God's Law will never pass away. His Law IS the way, the Truth, and the Light. Therefore Every Soul must pay for their actions and decisions to the final jot. And the way they pay is redeemed through Karma.

The continuing problem of Man and Women is to combine all of our Minds, Emotions, Awareness, and Consciousness, with our Wills and Purposes, so that we can all again be ONE with the Creator. Until that time, we as individuals will remain Earthbound, or within the confines of our own Solar System. The ever present stumbling block to this return to our True Self (Atonement with God), is our Ego or Self Interest, Self indulgence, Self-purposefulness. And all "sin", all error, all evil, indeed the only "sin" is the Self which became as separate from the Father! (Separate in it's own mind and in it's own heart but not in reality).
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:22pm »

The one problem that so many people seem to be forgetting is that the Bible is not the Word of God. Christ is the Word of God. He has stated that Himself. Even the Bible states that God's Word will never pass away. And nor will Christ. Christ will always remain....even when the Heavens and the Earth pass away.

But the Bible never states anything about the Bible being God's Word. Thats because the Bible is just a collection of different teachings over time. But I believe that many of those teachings are false and or have been twisted or altered to fit religion. NOT ALL OF THEM. Just some of them. There are some teachings in the Bible that I respect because of what they describe and what they can help a person use to better themselves and their lives. To change their actions to more positive ones. More loving ones. The quotes and such that you see me post and that are from the Bible are carefully picked by myself because I agree with them. I wouldn't post a quote from the Bible on this board if I didn't agree/believe in it.

Christ however perfectly and clearly stated that HE is the Word of God. And the Bible also states that. It says that God's Word is the Truth, the Way, and the Light. But what the Bible doesn't mention on the other hand is itself, which is because it is not what is really important.

So we have the facts. The Bible, among many other texts outside the Bible, such as the Gospel of Thomas and other gnostic texts, all state that Jesus was the Way, the Truth, and The Light. And the same is said about God's Word. So therefore, it would be impossible to conclude anything other than that Jesus IS God's Word, and that Christ is the Way, The Truth, and the Light.

God gave the Word.

Christ IS that Word.

Christ gave the Law.

The Law is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy mind, all thy heart and thy body; and thy Neighbor as Thyself. Do this and thou shalt have Eternal Life".

The Law is the Truth.

The Truth is the Way.

The Way is The Light.

And the Light is the Life.

ETERNAL LIFE.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:22pm »

Must we as Human Beings continue to constantly try and place a name on Our Creator? Wouldn't the World be a better place if we all stopped trying to claim The Creator as the leader of a particular group or race?

Did Jesus Himself not say that if we try to pin point the location of The Father then other things would be able to see Him/Her before us?

They asked Him:

When is The Kingdom coming?

He replied:

"It is not coming in an easily observable manner. People will not be saying, “Look, it’s over here” or “Look, it’s over there.” Rather, the Kingdom of The Father is already spread out on the earth, and People aren’t aware of it."

Jesus Said:

"If Your leaders say to You “Look! The Kingdom is in the sky! Then the Birds will be there before You are. If they say that the Kingdom is in the sea, then the Fish will be there before You are. Rather, the Kingdom is within You and it is outside of You."


Can the same not be said about religions who act likewise? Use Jesus's above parrable to realize the truth that is contained in it.

If God is Alah, then the Muslims will see Him before everyone else.

If God is a Hindu God, then the Hindus will see Him before anyone else.

If God is only the Christian Trinity (Father, Son, And Holy Spirit), then the Christians will see Him before anyone else.

If God is Budah, then the Budhists will see Him before anyone else.


No. This is not the truth. The Creator has no name. The Creator has no face. The Creator has no color nor does the Creator have a religion. Rather, Just as Jesus has stated for us all, The Creator is both within us and without us.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:23pm »

And so therefore what would the Creator truly be? Well my friends, as we have learned through science and many other sources, The Universe and everything within it is composed of Matter. And why is Matter so important? Because Nothing can exist without it. Nothing.

And who was it that created Matter? No one. And how do we know this? Because Matter is infinite. It will always be and it has always been. Therefore, what remains inside us and without us that is eternal just like "The Kingdom of Heaven" which in my opinion is a description of the very same parrable that Jesus used to describe this substance? You guessed it, it's Matter/Energy.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:23pm »

Jesus Said:

"I am the light above everything. I am everything. Everything came forth from me, and everything reached me. Split wood and I am there, Lift up a rock, You will find me there."

Jesus Said:

"You are pleased when you see Your own likeness. When You see Your Images that came into being before You did, immortal and invisable Images, how much can You bear?"

Jesus Said:

"The images are revealed to People. The Light within Them is hidden in the Image of the Fathers Light. He will be revealed. His Image is hidden in His Light."

He responded,

"He who has ears let Him hear. There is light within a man of light, and He lights up all of the world. If He is not alight there is darkness."

Therefore I say that if One is unified One will be filled with Light. But if One is divided One will be filled with Darkness.



So if God made everything and anything from ITSELF, then wouldn't it be logical to understand that God is composed of Matter in it's purest form?
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:24pm »

Jesus Said:

"If They ask You, "Where are You from?" reply to Them, "We have come from the place where Light is produced from Itself. It came and revealed Itself in Their image."

"If They ask You, "Are You it?" reply to Them, "We are His Sons. We are chosen ones of The Living Father."



And so again, what exactly is it that produces Light? It's Matter. When two Photons (A form of matter) crash together then this is how we get Light. More to the process than that but this is the basic concept I am using here.

Jesus understood this concept way way way before our modern day scientists did. He understood the laws and fundamentals of the Universe. He was gifted with the power of Christ.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:24pm »

If we can all come to understand the truth about what Jesus was teaching us, then we can all begin to understand how ignorant many of the concepts of Human religions really are.

To acknowledge only 3 parts of God which Christianity claims is Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit, and not to include Yourself and Your surroundings in that Trinity, is to separate God from everything else that exists, which is not the truth at all, because as I stated before God is everything, because everything is God/Matter/Energy, and so to acknowledge the Trinity concept as being separate from you in any way and to not include yourself and everything around you as a part of it is to separate yourself from the Truth.

In other words, Just as Jesus claimed that "we all come from the place where Light is produced from itself", we can begin to understand that we all come from Matter, because Matter produces Light from Itself, which is exactly what Jesus was trying to say.

So we all come from Matter. And I believe that Matter = God in all of it's various forms.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:24pm »

If any of you truly want to know one of the simplest equations for remembering who or what God really is....then it is an extremely easy one to remember:

Nothing exists without God. And God exists within everything.

Remember this simple fact whenever you get confused about God and or Yourself and Your surroundings.

Every time you take a step on the Earth, you are walking on another form of God. Everytime you eat a good meal you are enjoying yet another form of The Creator. Everytime you run from someone who is trying to hurt you, you are running from a Form of the Creator. All-be it a very negative form "filled with darkness" as Jesus had stated, but a form of God none of the less.

And this is all very important to remember folks. Because everytime you kiss your sweetheart, shake hands with your friend, hug your brother or sister, you are interacting with another form of God.

So please, whenever possible, treat everything you see, smell, hear, touch, and taste as multiple forms of your Creator, because thats exactly what they are. As am I. As are you. And as is the rest of all Creation.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:25pm »

I would ask you all one question....What are your true intentions in this lifetime?

Is it your intention to laugh at those who are not a part of your religion because in your own mind you truly believe that they will not be able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven simply because they don't belong to your same group?

Is it your intention to put yourself ahead of another and reach what ever level of material "success" you wish to achieve without having any regard for your fellow Brothers and Sisters?

Because if this is what you really believe in then you should know that you are living a complete lie. And that your intention has been revealed before the Universe.


Matthew 25:40

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Jesus Said:

"Do not lie. If there is something that You hate, do not do it, for everything is revealed beneath Heaven. Nothing hidden will fail to be displayed. Nothing covered will remain undisclosed."

Jesus Said:

"When You give rise to that which is within You, what You have will save You. If You do not give rise to it, what You do not have will destroy You."

When You understand Yourselves You will be understood. And You will realize that You are the Sons of the living Father. If You do not know yourselves, then You exist in poverty and You are that poverty.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:27pm »

Or still yet, are you the type of person that believes that just because you have joined a particular religion that you are now automatically somehow qualified to "save" another person's Soul? This too is a complete lie.


Jesus Said:

"You see the splinter that is in Your Brother's eye, but You do not see the log that is in Your own eye. Remove the log from Your own eye, and then You can clearly see to remove the splinter from Your Brother's eye."

Jesus Said:

"If a Blind Person leads another Blind Person , both of Them will fall into a ditch."

Jesus Said:

"One who knows everything else but who does not know Himself knows nothing."



And do you really believe that all of the World's religious organizations, many of (and there are many) who's true purpose is to control, and who's many followers know this and who also set out to control, will actually Enter into the Kingdom with that state of reality? Of course not. They have 0 chance if they continue remain with that way of thinking...


Jesus Said:

"A Grapevine was planted outside of The Father but, as It did not strengthen, They will pull It up by It's roots and It will die."

Jesus Said:

"They do not pick Grapes from Brambles, nor do They pick Figs from Thistles, for These do not yield The Proper Fruit."
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:27pm »

So what I am asking you to do, the very few people who will stand up and realize what the Father truly is, and understand that everything came from Him and eventually everything will return from Him, that you very few will stand up and realize that the Father is both the Beginning and the End and therefore you few who truly understand this will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.


Jesus responded:

"When You make the Two into One, and when You make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the upper like the lower and the lower like the upper, and thus make the Male and the Female the same, so that the Male isn't Male and the Female isn't Female. When You make an eye to replace an eye, and a hand to replace a hand, and a foot to replace a foot, and an Image to replace an Image, then You will enter The Kingdom."

Jesus said:

"The Earth and the Sky will roll up right in front of You. Anyone living from The Living will not die."

Blessed is Anyone who will stand up in the Beginning and thereby know the End and never die.



And if you don't wake up now, and if you don't choose to see that the Father is everything inside of you and everything that is around you while you are Alive, and that He truly does exist inside you and everywhere outside of you, then you will not be able to See Him when you die.


Jesus said:

"Look at The Living One while You live, for if You die and then try to see Him You will not be able to do so."
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:28pm »

You really should come to understand that the reason that Jesus said that there is "Light within a Man of Light", is because even 2,000 years ago Jesus knew the truth which is that there is Light within every single one of us, and that all of us have the ability to Light up this whole World, if only we would recognize what is inside of us, and right in front of us, and all that there is to know will eventually be revealed to us.

Jesus said:

"Recognize what is right in front of You, and that which is hidden from You will be revealed to You. Nothing hidden will fail to be displayed."

Jesus Said:

"I stood in the midst of the World. I came to Them in the flesh [sarx]. I found all of Them drunk. I found not One of Them to be thirsty. My soul was saddended by The Sons of Men for They are mentally blind. They do not see that They have come into the world empty and They will go out of the world empty. But now They are drunk. When They sober up They will repent."

Jesus Said:

"When You understand Yourselves You will be understood. And You will realize that You are the Sons of the living Father. If You do not know yourselves, then You exist in poverty and You are that poverty."


And we literally are. We are all SUNS of the Living Father. In different forms, yes, but we are all made of the same basic components of the stars/suns that make up the Universe. There is not one element that you can find in the stars that you can't find in the Human body. Photons, Nuetrons, Magnetic Electricity, each and every one of us contains these same properties.

Jesus asked all of us to use this Light within us, and to spread it and teach it to the entire World.

Jesus Said:

"What you Hear in you Ears preach from Your Housetops".

Jesus Said:

"He who has ears to hear let Him hear."
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:28pm »

Can a person comprehend anything more complicated then a physical answer to life, and death?

The question of the Millenium.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "It's all the same in the end"?

I bet many of you have heard that phrase used by someone in your presence before. I am also willing to bet that many of you have found yourselves nodding your heads in agreement to that statement without ever really thinking twice about it.

But have you ever really considered what that phrase really means? Or better yet, have you ever wondered why you have such a strong tendency to want to totally agree with such a statement?

The reason for that is simple. It's because that single phrase represents the Ultimate Truth. And your Soul knows it. Which is that all of us were the same in the Beginning and that all of us will be in the End. And what were we? Pieces of God. And what I believe we and everything else are currently is simply the Creator experiencing Itself through multiple forms of energy.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 10th, 2008, 9:29pm »

We are all pieces of God. We are all pieces of Energy.

Energy = Everything and therefore Everything Must be Energy and therefore Energy must be God.

You can't get something from nothing. You can't get nothing from something. For there to be anything, it has to come from SOMETHING. For there to be something, it has to be a part of EVERYTHING. You can not have anything without it being a part of everything. You can not have an everything without there being ANYTHING to be a part of it. Therefore everything and something are part of the same.

Therefore we are part of God, and God is part of us, and we are ONE together, and I could go on for hours....
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